I would like the 38 New York senators who voted against marriage equality to TELL ME TO MY FACE that they don’t think I should be able to get married. Fucking bigots.
The Tin Man
I would like the 38 New York senators who voted against marriage equality to TELL ME TO MY FACE that they don’t think I should be able to get married. Fucking bigots.
No worries.
The bars and clubs (and stores) will be packed.
Party on.
What the fuck does that mean?
Because if the definition of marriage is changed to allow two men or two women to form a union, then straight marriage will lose its value and straight couples won’t want to get married and married couples will split up and the children ZOMG think of the children!!!
If New York State let you and Matt get married, then that would send the message that it’s OK to be gay and without the public support of heterosexuality and condemnation of homosexuality straight men will leave their wives and go out to have butt sex with other men and women will stop respecting the supremacy of the penis and become lesbians and ZOMG the children! Think of the children!!!!11!
And teh gay makes Baby Jesus cry.
I also want to know why we have a fucking State Senate to begin with.
Oh it all about the children. Or about saving marriages. Or about God. Or, really, it is because I am a bigot and it makes me feel a tiny bit better knowing I put those fags in their place. I hope I never meet Maggie Gallagher in person because I hate her fucking guts so much.
There was a time when Gay Culture was about moving our national values forward, a progression of ideals around sexuality — a Mattachine Society et al devoted to The Call. Yet, somewhere in the decades following, Gay Culture became more about fun and the banal acquisition of wealth. We began to pride ourselves on our individual acquired level of bourgeoisie. We became counter-revolutionaries in all but our sexual proclivities as individuals.
That’s when we lost and will continue to lose regional struggles, mired too deep in our amusement, wealth, and gadget-driven value system.
rob@egoz.org
It’s not fair to single out gays as uniquely guilty of that (you do have a point, Rob). Such is the case of what passes for the left in the country in general, gay or straight.
There’s no such thing as “gay culture,” but in the broader national culture the radicalism of the 60’s and 70’s gradually sputtered and died. In the gay community AIDS in the 80’s had a lot to do with it, but the threat of plague and the indifference of the Powers That Be radicalized the next generation to a degree.
However, our victories have made us complacent. It says something when the primary goal of what passes for the movement now is marriage — the very symbol of bourgeois conformity. If the gay “community” in general has becomes “mired too deep in our amusement, wealth, and gadget-driven value system,” it is because we have more or less arrived and have for all intents and purposes been fully integrated into bourgeois American society.
We are no longer the outcasts we once were, so there is no incentive for the masses to take up an “outcast” (rather, revolutionary) consciousness; most of us are more interested in carving out our own space in the bourgeoisie.
That’s the case with gay men, anyway. The sisters seem to me to still have their hearts in the fight. I guess the double whammy of being both gay AND women is enough to remind them that the Powers That Be are not their friends.